Comments on: Appalachian Trail record-setter says Baxter State Park officials ‘vilifying’ him http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/ Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.8.3 By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-57229 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 21:00:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-57229 They didn’t do it in 46 days 8 hours and seven minutes.
Jurek did. I did support him with company for 30 miles or so. I did not “mule” any of his gear or bring any food out for him.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-57200 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:15:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-57200 Think a 74 year old woman completed the AT recently, and a 60s something did it three times. No fanfare, no support group(which evidently you are), no internet photo bombs, no nothing; just elderly folks making record passages on the AT. As far as GPS, Rosie Ruiz should have had one of those. I do apologize if you are offended by my statements.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-57067 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:01:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-57067 Must be something you don’t understand. My replies to you on this subject are written pretty well and clear. Maybe a few typographical errors here and there. I have tried to be cordial. I see that does not work. I am calling you out on the false statement you put forward earlier in this thread. You said: reed1v Jes999 • 4 days ago

“Well, actually short cuts and support teams help. Probably an 80 year old grandmother could do the same following what he did to “establish” his record. Amazing what marketing hype gets us to believe.”

That statement is an attempt by you to perpetrate a lie. My reply sums up the eyewitnesses and photographic as well as GPS record of Mr. Jurek’s Fastest Known Time attempt to cover the entire AT on foot. Do you care to retract your false statement, and the ridicule you stated about my reading text level messages instead of coherent sentences? If not, that shows the lack of understanding you have. If you are a generation (around 20 years) older than me, I would expect a little more reading comprehension from you.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56815 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:27:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56815 Yes, good shooting by the “black” team at the Company. Anyhow, we are separated by a generation and very different cultures.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56813 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:24:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56813 I am not vilifying him in the least. The issue is Baxter’s role as wilderness in the future. The discussion really has nothing to do with the person per se. Guess you just do not understand. Probably due to reading text level messages rather than coherent sentences. Suggest a remedial English course for you.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56706 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:52:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56706 I doubt I’m much younger than you. I was in the second grade when JFK was shot.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56688 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:38:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56688 You ever seen a logging operation? Pretty messy business. Heavy equipment, de-forestation, destruction of wildlife habitat. Mud runoff into streams, lakes and rivers, hydraulic fluid leakage that can’t be helped. A little champagne and a few people and some photography…hahahahahahah. This makes Bissell look like Lord Fahrquad in the kids cartoon Shrek movie.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56672 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:10:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56672 I went out on the AT 3 separate days to meet Scott in the Central Virginia area and ran / hiked with him a total of about 30 miles. Met him at his end of day location on a Thursday night, then met him about 60 miles north on Saturday morning and ran to the Tye River with him. Sunday morning I met him just inside Shenandoah National Park and went 22 miles with him. Talked probably an hour or a little more with his wife Jenny who was his only real crew most of the trip. I followed his progress daily on the DeLorme GPS app he had on his face book page. Many people did just as I did every day thru out his whole 46 day 8 hour and seven minute run / hike, and although it may have boosted his morale some, it probably slowed him quite a bit with folks wanting to take pictures and chat, and bringing vegan foods that he felt obligated to eat. Once in awhile Jenny would keep his GPS in the van to recharge it while Scott hiked and ran to their next meeting point on the AT. You assert in your post that he took short cuts. He pretty much averaged 50 mile days with a few exceptions, and while he was traversing Virginia a friend of mine figured he averaged about 4 miles per hour. I don’t intend to labor any more on this but your accusatory remarks about an honest fastest known time that was witnessed by many who accompanied him for some part of their day, and documented pretty well with photographs are way out of line sir. Jurek is pretty well known in the ultra running community as an honest person who would give you the shirt off his back. He did give a thru hiker a pair of shoes! He finishes 50 and 100 mile trail races then sits at the finish line cheering and watching every one else finish, down to dead freaking last place. When he could be showered and sleeping. That does not sound like a cheater. He packed out two large boxes of trash that came off the trail with him. He is a big ambassador of Leave No Trace ethics. I can’t understand why some folks can’t take all that at face value and have to spin it all some kind of weird way. This was basically a fast pack or what some call a “slack pack” trip as most FKT attempts are. He did not carry a sleep system or cooking gear. He carried a hydration pack with enough storage for what he needed to eat for the next 20 miles or so…till the next road crossing he could meet Jenny. He was greatly slowed by a knee injury that occurred early in his trip. He compensated by changing his gait and over loaded his left leg especially on descents. He tore the quads in his left leg as a result. Most people would have given up. Scott did not quit. He took a few short days of just walking, acquired some hiking poles to slow his descents while jogging and used the poles to help him power hike uphills. It is easy to criticize from behind a key board. I witnessed part of Scott’s effort. I saw him go from dead tired to completely refreshed and focused on finishing his hike. Those who did not witness his effort should not come up with false ideas that he took short cuts.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56245 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:24:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56245 Yes, a catered race.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56242 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:23:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56242 Wilderness is just that: Forever wild. Perhaps Baxter can not survive as wilderness but will have to be developed for housing, commercial operations, and promotional events. Will be a real loss to Maine’s heritage. But you younger folks are seemingly the type who like to compromise life towards the point of uniformity for all. As someone else said might as well pave over the place and put up a parking lot.

]]>
By: UserInterface http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56201 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 19:33:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56201 As you seem to know, BSP is not the same as other state parks. However, there is nothing fishy about it. The commercial activities allowed in Baxter are set out in the rules and regs. Why shouldn’t the park benefit from it? Maine people know that Baxter has rules. If you want to go there, you play by Baxter’s rules. While I and others may agree that Mr. Bissell could have handled the matter better, you won’t find a lot of sympathy for your position in Maine.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56189 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 19:11:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56189 Hunting wounds animals that are never found. It puts lead into the environment. Some indigenous populations need and deserve to be able to hunt. I am not against hunting, I have hunted my share in the past, but if you folks in Maine want to be so “purist” in your “wilderness” just let the wilderness take over. Logging, or “forest management” as BSP calls it, does indeed destroy habitat. Although in 50 years or so the forest will “take over” and most unsuspecting people will never know logging was done. I am not against logging. I live in a wood frame constructed house, and am not crazy enough to demand all logging be stopped. I hear logging is “big business” in Maine. It is a wonder that Mr. Bissell would allow such “commercial activity” in his park! Everything I see Mr. Jurek cited for is so infinitely small in comparison to other activities that BSP accepts money to allow people to do it is laughable. Since when did true wilderness need humans to “manage” it? By definition, the two are incongruous. Stop justifying Mr. Bissell’s little public defamation rant, and the entrapment he contrived upon Mr. Jurek. It is not justifiable. If he wants the AT out of BSP, can probably just decree it to be so. Or at least keep his conversations with the Appalachian Trail Conservancy going. He seems to have the unchecked authority to command just about like a ship’s captain in regards to BSP as far as doing what he pleases. Most places that are called “State Parks” come under the control of the State Government somewhere along the line. Some other government official would have a person who posted what Mr. Bissell posted on BSP’s face book page about Jurek, either fired or placed on administrative leave pending further investigation, and would be issuing retractions and apologies. BSP has no such check or balance, as it it a private trust, not really a State Park. If those checks and balances were present, the apologies would already be public news. Something is fishy with all that. Maybe the population of Maine does not care about how all this looks to the rest of the country, and the world for that matter. I can tell you what I think though. Mr. Whiny over officious jerk is on a power trip and found a bone to chew on to justify what he wants to happen. He just picked the wrong person to vilify. Scott Jurek is the antithesis of the spiteful condemnation that Mr. Bissell is pedaling.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56155 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 18:21:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56155 Been on the AT quite a bit, 10 to 15 times a year, over the past 13 years, less frequent before that, going back to the 1970’s, for day hikes, running (I am an ultra marathoner) and over night camping / back pack trips with my Scouts. Never seen motorcycles, mopeds, or roller blades (don’t know any suitable terrain for roller blades on the AT around Central / South west Virginia). I did see one person on a mountain bike once who got a little confused while riding an adjoining trail, and have seen the same with horse back riders. Usually those folks will turn around and seek a different trail when told they are on the AT and no bikes or horses are permitted. (Especially if you tell them you saw a maintenance crew with a Ranger planning to work on the trail, and they said they were going up ahead, where they will be issued citations with fines attached, which of course, was not really true but could happen…maybe, goal accomplished, offenders left!) There are a few high use areas, where one might encounter less than ideal conditions with other people using the trail for a mile or two, but not for long if you really want solitude. Any where you have major roads crossing you kind of have to expect that. While I mentioned Federal Wilderness areas in Virginia and I mentioned National Parks out west, I did not intend to confuse the two. Only to say that Wilderness and human traffic as well as local economy can find ways to co-exist without the type of berating and over officious comments that Jensen Bissell put on BSP’s facebook page. I would not be suprised if he were in court answereing charges of entrapment, slander and libel by each one of Mr. Jurek’s sponsors, possibly Mr. Jurek, and possibly the photography company. Some times the cop will let you off with a verbal warning when you are a little over the speed limit…this was a time for that kind of better judgement. Instead, I believe Mr. Bissell saw an opportunity to draw attention to himself and intentionally entrapped Mr. Jurek. The Rangers at the bottom ok’d the one bottle of celebratory champagne that was brought. The summit usually does not have rangers. There were rangers there that day. Summons issued for open alcohol. Littering summons for some of the champagne that spilled out of the bottle. C’mon man! Entrapment if I ever saw it! Permits (and day use fees I think) issued at the bottom by BSP officials. Then they issue a summons for too many people? They control that! Not every one that was up there was in Scott’s party. But the park officials want you to believe that anyone who said hi or shook Scott’s hand was in his party! There are eye witness accounts and at least 20 minutes of video of the activities at the summit. IT WAS NOT A FRAT PARTY! On the contrary it was described as not as intrusive to the “wildness” experience as a wedding party that was there already! Scott briefly celebrated, hugged his wife, hugged the sign, and sat down with the bottle of champagne in his hand and answered questions for over 20 minutes, then hiked down and was issued those summons at the bottom, after the permits had been issued for the activities and discussion had already been had about the one bottle of celebratory champagne that is quite commonly used to celebrate many momentous occasions. I cry foul on that, and on Mr. Bissell’s pouty, childish comments on the BSP Face book page. Especially in light of the other activities Mr. Bissel does permit in BSP (and collect money, ie, commercial gain for) such as hunting, and I may be misunderstanding the forestry management portion of what BSP does, but around here that usually means logging. Bissell painted a picture of Jurek that is completely opposite of his personal, and public ethic.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56144 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 18:05:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56144 Back in the sixties and seventies was active in the Wilderness Society and Sierra Club. Have done transcontinental trails, both here and abroad. We use to carry our own gear, cook our own foods, and forage for water and whatever else we needed to keep going. Don’t have my old logs around, but do recollect we moved at 10-40 miles per day, depending on conditions. No support team, no contact with outside world,

]]>
By: UserInterface http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56134 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:59:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56134 Hunting and logging done appropriately can help the environment, not hurt it. I don’t think that Mr. Jurek spraying or spilling champagne on Katahdin harmed the mountain. I’m sure Mr. Bissell could have handled matters better. I do not believe, though, that BSP needs to accommodate people in the same way that other parks along the AT do. They have a specific mission and set of rules outlined by Gov. Baxter in making his gift. It does not include hosting media events on the mountain and this incident will probably lead to more restrictions, not fewer. It has been reported that Mr. Bissell has been frustrated in his efforts
to abide by Gov. Baxter’s wishes. It appears that Mr. Jurek was the
unhappy recipient of his frustration. That is unfortunate.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56098 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:20:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56098 Not saying Baxter should be for sale to the highest bidder. I think better judgement could have been used by Jensen Bissell. Cops will use a bit of judgement when they pull someone over for a minor traffic violation. They don’t always issue tickets unless the violation was flagrant. This case was a minor violation…THAT WAS ACTUALLY OK’D AHEAD OF TIME by Mr. Jurek’s conversation with Rangers, and the fact that the BSP officials issued the permits (and probably took day use fees) for the people they claim to have been “too many”. And by the way that park does take money (commercial gain) for people to conduct other activities that do harm animals and destroy habitat…hunting and logging, not to mention other day use and camping fees. Who really indeed is using BSP for commercial gain here now??? From my understanding of the BSP trust that Gov. Baxter set up, the fees are not really necessary for BSP to remain financially solvent. They could (and I read that it is being considered) do away with the fees. So I really don’t get the logic Mr. Bissell used when posting the Slander and Libel on the BSP face book page he put there about Mr. Jurek. I personally think Jensen Bissell is a small minded power hungry over officious jerk for posting those comments, and apparently many others think the same from the social media reading I have done. You are welcome to hike all 425 miles of the AT in Virginia, even passing thru some Federal Wilderness areas, without paying a fee, without Rangers looking over your shoulder, and take photographs all you want, as well as partake of alcohol responsibly, as long as you are not drunk in public, or leave a big mess behind…which none of that happened on Katahdin the day Jurek finished. Shenandoah National Park requires a permit for AT thru hikers but it is free. They just want to know how many people are in the Park and approximately where they are planning to be.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56094 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:13:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56094 What we don’t want to do is change the very specific terms of Governor Baxter’s gift to the “people of Maine” – and those are his words.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56069 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:52:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56069 You are welcome to hike anywhere in Virginia…I can even be your guide if you want on the AT. Too bad the folks in Maine don’t want to share like we do in VA.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-56066 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:49:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-56066 Mr. Reed1v,I don’t know where you get the information you are asserting here. What are your credentials? Did you go out to the AT and hike / run with Scott Jurek any at all? Did you follow his daily progress on his GPS tracker? Have you ever thru hiked the whole AT or even done a week long section hike? Do you know Mr. Jurek or have you had any personal contact with him? Have you ever run up a 4 or 5,000 foot mountain and down the other side, repeatedly? For 46 days?

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54906 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:14:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54906 Wilderness is not national park stuff. Wilderness is just that; and yes, it is to keep at least some tiny sliver of our wild past intact rather than turn everything over to commercial pursuits, highways, throngs of humans, and so forth. Last time i was on the AT, had mopeds, motorcycles, bikes, and even someone on rollerblades doing the trail. But maybe as you say things have changed. That was back in ’98 so maybe less folks are using the AT?

]]>
By: UserInterface http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54854 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:15:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54854 I understand your point of view but think it is off the mark when it comes to Baxter. It is nice to think that something isn’t for sale to the highest bidder.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54831 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:39:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54831 Sounds like a good deal to me. Enjoy Yosemite.

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54810 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:12:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54810 What could be bad about more people wanting to go to BSP? What? They want to $pend money around the park area? Maybe $tay at a place in Millinocket? Maybe buy ga$ or rent car$? Maybe eat at restaraunt$? Oh, that’s right, Gov. Baxter was independently wealthy and set the park up with a trust fund…so it is not even truly a “State” park. Well it is obvious then you don’t need any of my money…I will spend it elsewhere. Thanks for the sign that say’s “we don’t need you… or even want you climbing on our mountain.”

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54801 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:00:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54801 ONE bottle of Champagne. Not ALL that stuff! There is a video of Scott answering questions for over 20 minutes with the Champagne in his hand. I saw no catering service. I have read eyewitness accounts that were very positive about the whole day. Even if it was a commercial “event” as you assert, the BSP authorities had plenty of time to get ready for it. Looks to me like they planned to entrap him by issuing permits for every one who was at the summit, then claiming too many in his group. And the “littering” was champagne spilled on the rocks at the summit. Come on man get a grip on reality. The one bottle of champagne was ok’d by the Rangers ahead of time. The photographers cited for taking video at the summit…really??? You have got to be kidding me! What harm is there in that??? No animals were harmed, no trees were cut down. (Both activities are approved by BSP by the way…hunting and logging!) Research the “event” man…before you comment!! There are three FEDERAL wilderness areas within an hour drive from my house, in the Blue Ridge Mountains that the AT runs thru. NO FEES, no Rangers looking over your shoulder, no permits required. It is just as wild as it ever was with Bear, deer, and eagles along with a host of small game and plenty of woodland. Wilderness seems to stay there without anybody “managing” it. I do get the concept of wilderness. There is likely more harm to the environment by people driving to the parking area to day hike on Katahdin in one day, than Scott Jurek caused on the whole 46 day AT run / hike. Does BSP get the concept of people and real life achievement? Do the people of the Millinocket area that have an economic stake in the AT terminating in that area have any inclination of how this puts BSP in such a poor light as looked upon by the rest of the out doors loving community? Does BSP have any idea of the economic impact the northern terminus of the AT brings to that area? Or do they really not understand that tourism dollars are dollars that come from outside that area? Do they really want to share their wilderness or “put up a fence to keep me out , and to keep mother nature in”? I have hiked and ran a good portion of the AT in Virginia. I have had a life long dream of hiking the whole AT some day even if I have to section hike it over several years. I am no longer enthralled by the idea of finishing atop Mt. Katahdin due to the “smug” attitude portrayed by Jensen Bissell in his derogatory, defamatory commenting on BSP’s facebook page. If you folks want to kick the AT out…fine with me. I will gladly spend my money elsewhere! I have had the fortune to travel some and enjoy some of the wild places out west when I was a youngster. BSP could do well to take lessons fron Grand Canyon National Park, and Yellowstone National Park. BSP just picked a very incongruous person to “pick on” in light of all the good Scott has done for the out door community in general, and in light of the entrapment and subsequent public villification by Mr. Bissell. In my opinion, the sponsors, and Scott Jurek should bring charges against BSP and Mr. Bissell personally, for the entrapment, slander, and libel and probably several other things. This could have been handled to great advantage by BSP and Mr. Bissell…but alas, some people are on a power trip.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54614 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:57:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54614 Well, actually short cuts and support teams help. Probably an 80 year old grandmother could do the same following what he did to “establish” his record. Amazing what marketing hype gets us to believe.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54611 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:55:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54611 So all that stuff just showed up coincidentally? Not, it was planned, orchestrated, and paid for by the company. It was a very commercial event. Guess the whole idea of wilderness is lost on you.

]]>
By: Steamship http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54574 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 02:43:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54574 Mr. Mitchell, yours is a very smug and pious response to those who care deeply about keeping Baxter State Park a, “forever wild”, experience, as Governor Baxter decreed when he founded the park. Mr. Jurek was seeking publicity. He has to in order to remain a professional athlete. The rules clearly state that the type of publicity that Mr. Jurek planned to generate on Baxter Peak is not in line with the charter of Baxter State Park. Mr. Jurek should have climbed the mountain, established his record, and then gone off to some place that could have better accommodated his celebration.

]]>
By: Lindsey Davis http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54567 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 02:28:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54567 It may have been an unintended consequence on the part of his achievement, but the fiasco that day did take place and can not be denied. This foolish record was the cause of park rangers enforcement and you bet they rightfully targeted him. Put your ego away Scott, take your medicine, and STFU!

Next time go SOBO!

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54563 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 02:06:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54563 No food servers and set designers…do a little research, please Most sponsored professional athletes are contractually bound by any thing that resembles an athletic achievement on their part, to represent the sponsors in some way. The finish of his hike / time attempt was not a commercial event. It was his hike. The photo crew was there on their own to record it, and potential is there for some commercial gain by them to use for promotion of the products to the public by the sponsors. This is entirely incidental just due to the fact that Scott Jurek has been a very good elite world class ultra marathon runner. I don’t think a few guys with go pro cameras that fit in the palm of your hand, and a celebratory bottle of Champagne is truly worth all the fuss that Jensen Bissell put up on BSP’s Face Book page regarding Jurek. Misuse of authority. Power corrupts. Someone should start digging some dirt on him!

]]>
By: Michael E. Mitchell http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54560 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:51:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54560 Apparently BSP does enforce the rules on VIP’s (even after permits were issued, and discussion that the Champagne would be overlooked) and does not enforce them on the average hiker. I encourage those who hold economic interests in the area…notably Millinocket to be highly involved in official discussions with BSP and Mr. Bissell along with other entities such as the ATC. There are other areas that would welcome the economic impact of having a world famous trail (and a world famous athlete) in their area. Do not overlook that economy to some of the small businesses in the Millinocket area. If the citizens of Maine desire to keep the beauty of BSP to themselves and no one else…I say let ’em keep it. Katahdin may be iconic and there may be a long tradition with the AT having the northern terminus there, but Mr. Bissell went way beyond anything that resembles good judgement in the handling of this incident. Jurek has done more to promote Leave No Trace ethics and healthy outdoorsmanship on a national, and even international basis than any of the BSP officials.including especially Jensen Bissell and the Rangers who did not use the better judgement they had previously used on many occasions when other people have celebrated their hike on Katahdin. This could have been used to promote tourism in Maine. Instead, Jensen Bissell chose to rain on what could have been a big economic positive for Millinocket and the local economy. People who come to the end of the trail have family and friends come to meet them. Those people have to eat, have a place to stay, need transportation, need laundry done, and want to maybe spend some more money on sight seeing in that part of Maine. What if all that were to leave? Hope ya lobstah traps work out ok!

]]>
By: Jes999 http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54463 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:59:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54463 Of course this dude should be allowed to flout the laws the rest of us peons have to follow. He’s a Very Important Person! What would the world do without a man who flew the Appalachian Trail so fast he probably can’t remember a thing he saw along the way?

]]>
By: Steamship http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54443 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:53:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54443 He promoted himself, and nothing else.

]]>
By: Steamship http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54441 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:52:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54441 Can you write something that indicates a somewhat advanced capability of thinking? I mean, just saying that someone is stupid, or is an idiot accomplishes nothing. Could you take a little time to try to substantiate your thoughts?

]]>
By: Steamship http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54438 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:49:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54438 Such a nuanced response. You really put a lot of thought into your reply; so full of carefully considered thoughts and ideas. You must be professionally employed in such as endeavors as busting rocks or squashing ants!
Having said all of that, instead of hurling invectives, would you care to take the time to compose an explanation as to why you equate worgingmansdem comment as that of a, “lunatics ranting.”

]]>
By: yathink2011 http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54423 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:19:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54423 If a hiker pops a champagne cork in the wilderness, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

]]>
By: UserInterface http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54410 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:06:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54410 The glorification (and accompanying commercialization) of individual athletic goals seems to be on the rise. In the case of wilderness, all publicity isn’t necessarily good publicity.

]]>
By: UserInterface http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54394 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:52:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54394 Impressive feat, however, as Mr. Jurek said he is a professional athlete. He does what he does for pay. That makes his celebration with an entourage a commercial event and quite different from a day hiker’s or a through hiker’s summit, even if they sip a beer or perform other silly rituals for the sake of a selfie. I can see Mr. Jurek’s point about the citations but I can also see why Mr. Jurek would be singled out as emblematic of what Baxter State Park is not and shouldn’t be.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54389 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:14:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54389 Thanks. Now I feel bad. The kid needs to read up on the AT and Gov. Baxter, but he has time to learn.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54381 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:57:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54381 Its what Maine is about.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54382 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:57:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54382 Man, you are dumb as a brick. Go back to New Jersey.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54377 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:56:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54377 A shoe company’s marketing campaign complete with photo shoots, video cams, set designers, food servers, and the like not exactly what Baxter was intended for. For that matter neither was the Trail.

]]>
By: reed1v http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54380 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:56:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54380 jrly is a junior in high school so do not be too hard on him.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54367 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:33:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54367 Governor Baxter insisted on it.

]]>
By: LogicalGranny http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54360 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:06:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54360 Governor Baxter shared it.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54359 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:53:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54359 I know this will be hard, but think about it. It’s called an “analogy”. (You can look that up if you need to.)

]]>
By: jrly http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54351 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:39:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54351 So he promoted the AT and Baxter State Park by giving it national if not international media attention. You seem to want to preserve the park as your bizarre spiritual sanctuary that no one knows about except quiet spiritualists like you. Not everyone shares your weird Emerson/Chris McCandles way of relating to nature.

]]>
By: jrly http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54350 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:37:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54350 No you are an idiot. And hopefully Bissel will lose his job as he seems to think Baxter should be for rangers only.

]]>
By: jrly http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54349 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:36:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54349 What sort of nonsense are you spewing?

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54341 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:09:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54341 This was the athletic equivalent of a hot dog eating contest.

]]>
By: Steamship http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/appalachian-trail-record-setter-says-baxter-state-park-officials-vilifying-him/comment-page-1/#comment-54339 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 11:57:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686819#comment-54339 Jurek’s goal was to hike the AT in the shortest possible time. Most of us dream of having the time to hike the AT at a comfortable pace; having the time to occasionally sit back and reflect. He turned the experience of hiking the AT into a media event, with no regard for those who hike to get away from life’s glare.

]]>