Comments on: Baxter State Park pushes back on rising number of Appalachian Trail ‘thru-hikers’ http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/ Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.8.3 By: FUBO http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-644833 Sat, 08 Oct 2016 20:08:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-644833 Only in America can you get corporate sponsorship for walking in the woods.

]]>
By: Dan Bruce http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-2/#comment-85196 Sun, 27 Sep 2015 01:08:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-85196 I retired from participation in Appalachian Trail and thru-hiker affairs in 2007 and have had almost zero contact with the A.T. since then. I did all of my A.T. hiking during the Golden Age of thru-hiking in the 1980s and early 1990s, B.E. (before electronics). I ran across this article by accident while doing a Google search. The thought of an Appalachian Trail without Katahdin as the northern terminus makes me weep. Obviously, the folks causing the problems know nothing of the history of the A.T. or Katahdin. They are trampling on the blood, sweat, and tears of the tens of thousands of people who sacrificed to give the gift of a wilderness footpath to America and the world.—Dan “Wingfoot” Bruce

]]>
By: JG http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-56078 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:58:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-56078 I have hiked the entire trail, in an actual thru-hike, past every blaze. I hope its cumfy in your armchair.

]]>
By: ocarol500 http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-2/#comment-56058 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:42:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-56058 The point of the article is that Baxter State Park does Not plan to Pay the salary for additional Rangers. And why should they? By what “right” do AT hikers tell the Great State of Maine how to run their business? The Northern Terminous of the AT was originally at Mount Washington in New Hampshire. Baxter graciously permitted the Northern Terminous to be Katahdin. If the ATC wants to hire & situate 2-4 Ridge Runners on the egresses to Baxter, (and have someone walk up to the AT sign on a daily basis during Hiker Season) let them raise the ATC Membership cost.

Why don’t you volunteer to sit at the entrance to the AT into Baxter and educate Thru Hikers if you’re that concerned about Baxter closing the AT inside their Park? Or why don’t you come up with a viable alternative that does not place the cost of hiring additional Rangers on the taxpayers of Maine? All my suggestion did was to place the cost of hiring additional Rangers where it rightly belongs, on the AT hikers & Thru Hikers who think Baxter’s rules do not apply to them. Since neither you nor I can know which AT hikers decide to break the rules, we must all become that “Village” and pitch in to resolve the issue.

As far as the personal attack on this aging hiker, that was petty and uncalled for. You don’t know me, “bless your heart.”

]]>
By: wollydevil http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-56007 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:27:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-56007 Them we better get rid of va lot of activies that people can get hurt at including all forms of racing .

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55992 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:09:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55992 I think just eliminating people from the park is the best idea. Just close it down and let people enjoy it from below. No reason to go up there anyway, someone might get hurt. Better yet, make the “Baxter Park Channel” and smartphone app that can let people see the beauty of the park without actually visiting it.

The AT hikers, based on the 20 times I have hiked the mountain, are much less of a problem than the day hikers, who are woefully unprepared to endure the challenge. If you’re going to ban anyone, ban them.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-2/#comment-55989 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:06:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55989 Oh that’s a great idea, make a profit from hiking. Since you’re an old hiker, whatever happened to strapping on some shoes and taking a walk in the woods? Since when did money enter into it? Ever seen some of the thru-hikers? Or set up some caste system to determines who is worthy of hiking?

The BPA receives no tax money from the state of Maine, they get their money from other sources. And the ATC is like the AMC (Appalachian Money Club) where it’s about the almighty dollar and not the original reason for being. No thanks to that corruption.

If BPA wants to station some Rangers at the AT trailhead and check people out, assess a fee to cover their expenses, and inform people of the rules, I have no issue with it. But to institute some hair brained ATC card buy-in system is just not thinking clearly.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55981 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:56:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55981 You have obviously never done the 100 Mile Wilderness.

I say leave it to those actually hiking and not some armchair warrior getting information secondhand.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55979 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:54:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55979 Not true, only a certain number can spend the night, any over that amount cannot spend the night in the park since there is no availability.

Check with the folks at Abol Bridge if you want to see for yourself, or better yet, hike it during peak season and find out firsthand.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55976 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:52:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55976 Amen. I am all for reasonable restrictions but the last 5 years have gone downhill so much even I avoid the park now.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55975 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:51:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55975 They can stay one night without reservations, but have to sign in at Abol Bridge to make sure there is room in the Park. if not, they have to wait another day. A few years ago this happened to me and I chose to enter the main park as a resident and not have to wait the extra day. So the numbers are already limited in a sense since you just can’t camp anywhere.

And lots of hikers hitchhike out of the park, I have picked up too many to number and brought them to town for food and to make transportation plans.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55972 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:48:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55972 It’s funny, local people are hurting because no one is coming to the area and the BPA wants to further restrict people from coming to their mountain, an obvious attraction that is drawing them in.

I have to wonder what Percival Baxter would think about limiting the people he wanted to enjoy the the park up for that reason in the first place. And I’ll bet he would have no issue with someone enjoying a celebratory drink at the summit.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55967 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:45:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55967 He did not do so on Katahdin, that was the AT prior to it. Read the report on it and see for yourself.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55969 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:45:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55969 Agreed, that’s about as petty as you can get.

But Baxter has been trending that way for years, enough so I don’t bother going there anymore.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55966 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:44:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55966 My wife and I always have some wine and cheese at the top and always have. I didn’t know until I read this that alcohol wasn’t allowed.

But really, what’s the harm. It’s not like someone is hiking a 30 pack to the summit and having a party.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55963 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:41:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55963 Mt Katahdin is 5,267′ tall and a mile is 5’280′. Climbing on the sign and extending your hands to the air is an age old tradition of touching the mile marker. I first did it back in 1980 and have done it 20 times since then. Until they make it illegal to do so, I will keep touching the magic mile of which I climbed to on my own two feet.

]]>
By: MaRK http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55957 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:37:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55957 Obviously you have only read one side of the issue, he hiked up with 4 other people, the rest met him along the way and tagged along due to his notoriety. I have climbed Katahdin 20 times and never met a party larger than 8 on any trail, but have only seen fewer than 20 people on the summit a handful of times.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55034 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 01:48:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55034 You really need to get some basic understanding in how the law works. It’s kinda fundamental to citizenship.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55033 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 01:46:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55033 Me too. Odd that anyone would think it otherwise.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55032 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 01:43:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55032 How exactly is “Jurek” pronounced?

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55029 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 01:42:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55029 Well said.

]]>
By: workingmansdem http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-55028 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 01:41:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-55028 Good lord! I’d rather give control to the first 6 names in the Bangor phone book. You are talking about the people who run the Depts. of Homeland Security and Veterans Affairs, the Postal Service and Amtrack!

]]>
By: Greenville http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54900 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:07:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54900 The park is endowed. It operate in a self funded fashion, via endowment, modest user fees, and income stream from scientific forest. They will participate in fighting the fire, the State may if they want it contained.

]]>
By: Thomas Harmon http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54898 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:03:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54898 if it pays no taxes then it should be considered public without additional controls. the question is, if there is a forest fire, who spends the money to put it out? if it is the taxpayer, then that makes my point quite clearly.

]]>
By: Greenville http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54873 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:32:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54873 The Gift was accepted with the stipulations and restrictions. The State of Maine is quite fortunate to have this crown jewel. The donor anticipated the potential for Federal Thuggery and the existence of people such as yourself.

]]>
By: LogicalGranny http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54707 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:54:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54707 Real property law – not personal property – is a vast and complex field, as is the law of trusts. With all due respect, you know nothing about it.

]]>
By: Thomas Harmon http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54670 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:43:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54670 for dead property owners who have donated land or property it can be done in the U.S. if you research and read up on “the barnes foundation,” which was i believe the largest personal art collection in the world, the “greater public good” specifically went completely against that man’s (barnes) stipulation. and, actually his stipulation was about the same time as baxter’s in the year 1922, i believe.

]]>
By: LogicalGranny http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54658 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:18:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54658 “just because you “owned’ something in the past, and are in fact quite dead, doesnt give you the right to tell people in the future what to do with it”. Actually, it does give you the right under the circumstances present in the case of Baxter State Park. Of course, feel free to try to overturn concepts and laws relating to property ownership in this country.

]]>
By: Thomas Harmon http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54646 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:50:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54646 why are more people who want to use the park a problem? and gov. baxter did in fact donate the 200,000 plus acres (in which he personally owned) that make up the park and stipulated what he wanted the park to be. okay, that sounds logical, except that as we go on in years and people change and land becomes more scarce, why should some guy who once owned a giant piece of now quasi public land have a say in this? what about the indians in the 1800’s? in theory they own all the land in the U.S., even though 99 percent of it they probably never even walked on. just because you “owned’ something in the past doesnt give you the right to tell the future what to do with it, unless of course it is legally transferred by inheritance from generation to generation.

]]>
By: Patten_Pete http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54580 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 05:31:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54580 Spilling champagne is littering? Talk about government run amok. Bissell is out of his mind.

]]>
By: JG http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54554 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:04:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54554 Most of these “thru-hikers” aren’t thru-hikers anyway. They’ve skipped portions of the trail along the way. The ATC needs to back off its “hike your own hike” mantra and some of these yahoos need to get off the trail way before Baxter. Leave it to the people that can actually complete the hike.

]]>
By: Greenville http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54539 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 00:37:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54539 Federal government involvement is generally unfair, biased, with rules developed in conjunction with the highest bidder/most politically connected. You could not have suggested a worse idea. Since Mount Katahdin/Baxter State Park is a State Treasure, it should remain as the donor wished and out of the Feds hands, as the donor wished and was in fear of.

]]>
By: lobsterbait http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54510 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:45:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54510 There are too many slots who give a fig less about the well-being of place, who only want to satisfy their own selfish and rather stupid behavior. I say arrest them and fines of high amounts to pay cost of additional enforcement. We do not care about YOUR antics and do not want you here. How’s that?

]]>
By: notspot http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54509 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:37:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54509 Yes.

]]>
By: placertogo http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54508 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:35:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54508 Since the Appalachian Trail is a national treasure, the Federal Government should take over the entire length and administer it under a set of fair and uniform rules.

]]>
By: Youngs78 http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54486 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:26:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54486 Mr Jurek was also issued a fine for the size of his group, which exceeded the group limit. He had a large ” crew ” following him along the trail, photographers, videographers, clothing and food supplied, making the ” record run” a high profile deal. His chase vehicle was DECKED with the names and logos of his sponsors and their websites. One really can’t complain about Baxter enforcing BSP ” forever wild” rules while trying to MAKE A PROFIT from a ” forever wild” experience.

]]>
By: BillyGr http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54487 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:26:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54487 They do charge the hikers the same as anyone else – either a fee for camping if they choose to do that, or a fee by vehicle if they get a ride into the park.

]]>
By: BillyGr http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54484 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:23:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54484 Actually that’s the Smoky Mountains that has a permit – Shenandoah has some kind of free form you fill out when entering. And even so, the Smokies one simply lets them know who is hiking, but does not limit who (or how many) at any one time.

]]>
By: Youngs78 http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54480 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:16:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54480 Working at the base of Mt Washington, as I have done for the past 12 seasons, I’ll just say that AT hikers are individuals, just as the rest of us . Many AT hikers complain and cry that there is a ROAD up Mt Washington, that spoils the summit experience because it puts too many people up on top, that wasn’t earned by hiking. Then, of course there is that dratted Cog Railway !!! TOO COMMERCIALIZED !!!!!!!!!!
Just as many other AT hikers have a friend or relative drive up to the summit, or take the Cog, to meet them, and perhaps bring them down for anight or 2 OFF TRAIL, and the bring them BACK UP to continue the trail in a contiguous fashion.
You cannot please everyone. All of the AT has ” rules”, sometimes different rules depending where on the trail one might be. No one gets to the summit of Katahdin with out encountering rules, and also encountering others, affording respect to others by following the rules should not be a foreign concept.

]]>
By: wollydevil http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54479 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:15:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54479 If eliminating the Appalachian Trail from being in the park is the better solution, do it now. That will never happen it’s been their to many years .

]]>
By: kash65 http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54456 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:10:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54456 Mr. Jurek was fined for littering for spilling some champagne. That just about perfectly sums up the Maine attitude.

]]>
By: Scott Martineau http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54453 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:42:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54453 I think the idea of a pre-registration or permitting system is the best idea. Not only will it limit the groups, it’s an opportunity to explain the rules of the park to people from outside of the are. The do it in the Shenandoah stretch of the AT, why not here?

]]>
By: Scott Martineau http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54452 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:39:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54452 Really, they say an average of 10,000 people of all ages climb on that sign every year, and most of them are NOT thru hikers. Are you saying they are all tactless?

]]>
By: Rich Alley http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54447 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:15:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54447 Thanks. How long can they stay in the park. Do they usually have friends waiting for them for the drive home?

]]>
By: Nikkiru http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54444 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:56:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54444 That “old cooter” would be governor Baxter, who wrote the trust deeds to the park.

One difference is that they can close the gate when too many people show up in cars, and can also restrict the numbers using campsites. When you hike in, you get a space in a lean-to for the nigh, t regardless of how many others are there that day.

The problems posed by the increasing number of hikers aren’t going to go away if they choose to ignore them.

]]>
By: Nikkiru http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54442 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:52:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54442 No, you didn’t miss it because it wasn’t in the story. But i fail to see why it would be relevant. Everybody else who pays that fee is also subject to the same rules, except that AT hikers get to camp for the night in a lean-to without reservations.

]]>
By: Woodsman http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54411 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:08:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54411 Driving more people away from the Katahdin area ???? It seems the problem is more people coming to the Katahdin area.

The park is looking at the increasing numbers and is realizing that that a different attitude needs to be instilled when approaching the park. An educational program (by BSP, AT, NPS, etc) for everyone entering the park needs to be started (or improved if it already exists). Getting people to understand that the park was established for reasons often in conflict with current standards of behavior, and encouraging them to respect that should help.

But it does not cope with the absolute increasing numbers reaching the summit. If that problem continues on an upward trend, there may ultimately need to be a way of controlling access by numbers. Horrors, but that is not outside the realm of possibilities in the future.

]]>
By: rgrene http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54402 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 15:30:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54402 I have climbed Katidin 4 times and never saw any rule violations. I personally have no problem with a small amount of celebratory spirits, as long the containers are carried out, and used discretely. Larger groups could be broken into smaller ones easily.

]]>
By: justanotherfakename http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54383 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:04:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54383 I climbed ‘the mountain’ several times in my teens with a group, admittedly many, many years ago, but honestly can’t imagine wanting or needing any stimulant other than the breathtaking views. And the energy needed for climb, and limits of how much anyone can physically carry, makes beer on the summit just sound silly, immature for a teenager, let alone an adult. If someone who has made the climb to knife’s edge found some dopes partying there, booze, pot, …naked? That would sure spoil the day for all but the party people, who should find another place to show off, the self absorbed party people would spoil it for possibly a once in a life time experience. Go to a bar to booze it up, or smoke your pot at home, we don’t need that on the mount Katahdin.

]]>
By: letmejustsay http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/02/maines-baxter-state-park-pushes-back-rising-number-thru-hikers/comment-page-1/#comment-54363 Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:23:00 +0000 http://www.pressherald.com/?p=686795#comment-54363 Baxter park officials need to relax just a bit. If they’re that worried, then hire more staff and increase the amount of the fines. Word will get out, and then maybe people will behave.

]]>