Maine rally to launch tour for traditional marriage
National opponents of same-sex marriage continue to focus attention on Maine.
By Susan M. Cover scover@mainetoday.com
MaineToday Media State House Writer
AUGUSTA - Supporters of traditional marriage will gather in Capitol Park on July 14 for a rally to kick off a 19-city nationwide Summer for Marriage Tour.
CLICK HERE to find out more about the Summer for Marriage Tour.
Bob Emrich, a Baptist minister and one of two men who led the successful repeal of Maine's gay marriage law in November, is the local organizer. He's working with the National Organization for Marriage on the Maine rally.
"I keep hearing all the time about how marriage is going to come up again (in the Legislature)," he said. "I thought it would be a good idea to remind people."
In May 2009, Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill into law to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry in Maine after lawmakers in both the House and Senate gave it final approval. The following day, Emrich and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland launched a signature drive to put the issue before voters in November.
Voters rejected the new law by a margin of 53 percent to 47 percent.
But supporters of same-sex marriage rights said they would continue to work on the issue, promising to bring it back in the near future. Betsy Smith, executive director of EqualityMaine, said they are reaching out to voters.
"We're doing what we've always done: talking one-on-one with Mainers about why they should support fairness and equality," she said
Smith said she doesn't think it's right that the National Organization for Marriage, which contributed nearly $2 million to the repeal effort, is planning to come back to Maine. The group has filed suit in state and federal court to object to Maine's campaign finance laws, which require disclosure of donor names.
"Here NOM is, a national organization out of New Jersey, coming to Maine once again to tell Mainers they should not support fairness and equality for their gay and lesbian neighbors," she said.
Emrich said NOM's executive director, Brian Brown, asked if Maine could be part of the tour. A group called Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman helps raise money for NOM and included a message about the tour on its website.
"For too long have we been members of a silent majority, watching the news in disdain as one state after another legalizes gay marriage," wrote Louis J. Marinelli, director of operations. "For too long have we considered our mere membership in a Facebook group or our signature on an online petition to be sufficient to counter the liberal-progressive attack on our traditions and values."
After leaving Maine, the tour is scheduled to travel to Concord, N.H.; Albany, N.Y.; Providence, R.I.; Trenton, N.J.; and several other stops as far west as St. Louis. It is scheduled to end Aug. 15 in Washington, D.C.
Emrich said a court case pending in California will likely make same-sex marriage a federal issue. Regardless, he wants to make sure Mainers are aware of what's going on. He also wants gay marriage to become an issue in the fall governor's race.
"I think it needs to be an issue in the campaign," he said. "It needs to be an issue in the culture."
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104 COMMENTS
AXeL said...
Why, those HATEFUL BIGOTS! Who are they to define what LOVE and COMMITMENT is? A man may want five women or maybe just a blow-up doll for a wife, and who are they to judge? A woman may want to join a couple in marriage along with her faithful dog, and NOT ONE OF YOU BIGOTED, RACIST REPUBLICANS can say that it's wrong! Not after you elected George Bush who was totally worse than Hitler and who dismantled the Constitution and caused WWIII and erectile dysfunction!
June 28, 2010 at 3:46 AM Report abuse
mainejeff said...
Is it gays that are obsessed with gay marriage.......or is it these religious tyrants that seem to have nothing else to do with their lives? Has Vermont fallen off the face of the Earth? Has Massachusetts turned into a brothel? Has life been destroyed in New Hampshire? These fear mongers need to get a life.......and Maine needs to concentrate on economic development among other more pressing issues.
June 28, 2010 at 4:29 AM Report abuse
HM2 said...
Just one more reason, as if we needed another, to get out of this stupid war. With 1500 American troops dead, over eight years at war, 6500 of our best military seriously wounded and maimed for life, and yes, over $300 Billion of our precious dollars spent on this fiasco it is time to fold the tent, declare victory and move 'em out.
June 28, 2010 at 5:35 AM Report abuse
Sam said...
Just 5 years ago a vote on gay marriage would have been overwhelmingly against it. Polls indicated fewer than 25% of Maine voters supported the concept at that time. In 2009 over 47% of Maine voters supported gay marriage. 90% of University of Maine students voted in favor of gay marriage (voted no on repeal). The trends here and throughout the country are clear and that undeniable fact frightens some folks. Those who oppose marriage equality are increasingly just talking to themselves. Time will erode opposition to full equal rights as the older generation passes the torch on to the young folks who, like U. Maine students, are overwhelmingly in favor of gay marriage. Change causes fear in those who are the least certain and secure. I hope they can grow and learn tolerance, but whether they do or not the change is coming and the statistics predicting it are crystal clear.
June 28, 2010 at 6:09 AM Report abuse
Biddy said...
Maine voted on this issue. Until it comes before the voters again why be antagonistic and keep harping on it? Obviously the pro SSM people will be pondering their next moves but the antis got what they wanted so why harp away? I think some people are so obsessed and paranoid about this issue that they base their lives on it. They've got a few screws loose to be sure.
June 28, 2010 at 6:23 AM Report abuse
MECommenter said...
I have to agree with Sam: paleo-conservative events like this seem to be antithetical to modern and tolerant 21st century society.
June 28, 2010 at 6:24 AM Report abuse
jake007 said...
right on Biddy,that about sums it up.
June 28, 2010 at 7:05 AM Report abuse
MSH said...
SSM is the christ-yelpers latest scam to milk the "faithful" (aka bigots) so they will be beating this drum to haul in more loot from the suckers....
June 28, 2010 at 7:35 AM Report abuse
lovinit said...
Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan slept with guys and they are the so called ones to lookup to in the do-nothing party. What goes on inside the republican log cabin, stays in the cabin. Mission Accomplished!
June 28, 2010 at 8:03 AM Report abuse
Willyhotdog said...
Is Paul LePage going to be there?
June 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM Report abuse
bastaa said...
axel: Your first sentence,before the rest of your satire, is right on.
June 28, 2010 at 8:55 AM Report abuse
YXNkNTY1NjZzZA%3D%3D said...
"We are equal but I'm sure that you will have to agree, not the same. Why would we then use the same word to define our relationships?" ________________________________________________________ Because it is more about forcing social acceptance as it is about legal rights. The cries about legal rights are a diversion. The fact that AR5 and others would reject equal rights under a different name shows that they could care less about legal rights. They want to redefine the most basic building block of society to force social acceptance. But they attack any rejection of this redefinition with arguments about legal rights. There are two distinctly different issues here. One is legal rights and the other is social acceptance. Not that any liberal-progressives would ever admit to it. That would require honesty and integrity, things that liberal-progressives are not known for.
June 28, 2010 at 8:55 AM Report abuse
trisailer said...
no one is attacking their "traditional values" there is no plan to require hertro's to marry same sex partners, nor is there any request at all for "traditional" marrage proponents to change anything at all. What is not ok is this bunch's attempts to deny EQUAL rights to a group of Americans who they don't happen to like. Just like civil rights laws this to will come to pass but apparently some want to insure that they go down in history as being on the wrong side of equal rights and bigots.
June 28, 2010 at 9:22 AM Report abuse
heyjoe said...
This "dead horse" has nine lives by the power of 10!!!!! Make it all stop!!!!!!
June 28, 2010 at 9:26 AM Report abuse
null said...
Supporters of SSM, we don't help the cause by pointing fingers at the GOP or Republicans - this only causes more division. It is not only possible but logical for a conservative to support equality and most importantly, a state's right to make independent decisions. True conservatives - true MAINERS - should be appalled by NOM, a Christian right contingent From Away, coming into our state and telling us how to live.
June 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM Report abuse
BrunsSteve said...
If we're really looking for "traditional marriage," the bride's father ought to be required to pay the husband 6 fat cows and a dozen chickens, especially if the husband is a man of note and has 3 wives already.
June 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM Report abuse
stinkyspot said...
Well this seems like a silly idea.
June 28, 2010 at 10:17 AM Report abuse
LarrySellers said...
OK, and next we should accept Islamic Sharia law as well, as it is only "fair" and provides "equal" rights to those that believe wome should be covered in public. Give me a break...the REAL bigots here are the gays. How about THEY practice tolerance of others views by accepting the definition of marriage and move on.
June 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
I believe the California Prop 8 case will be the answer to expanding the definition of marriage to include any two, non-blood-related adults who are not already married to someone else. Judge Walker in the California trial has asked very detailed questions of both sides, crafted to showcase the weakness or strength of each side's argument, when the case goes on to the 9th Circuit Appealet Court (the most liberal court in the country) That decision, of course, will be appealed to the Supreme Court. The same Supreme Court that last week ruled the names of people who signed petitions against same sex marriage (in Washington State)MUST be revealed. (That decision sunk NOM's case in ME) Conservative Justice Scalia sided with the majority as he did in Lawrence v Texas. In sum, it's looking pretty good for same sex marriage. NOM can have their rally. But soon they will have to move on to sticking their noses in some other part of people's lives because the Supreme Court will have spoken.
June 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
Ok for he traditional marriage crowd how about THIS alternative? : 1.working to make traditional marriage stronger and a choice people WANT TO choose 2.How about working to reduce divorce BY supporting families of domestic violence. poverty, unemployed etc?? 3. How about working to encourage "fathers" to marry to reduce the welfare roles?? 4. How about promoting and supporting family oriented HOUSING policy to fill our schools( and neighborhoods) with children again??5. How about supporting parenting classes to make STRONGER families.The evengelicans abandoned you for a reason--narrow sighted, negative, divisive and destructive visioning.
June 28, 2010 at 11:10 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
"A group called Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman helps raise money for NOM and included a message about the tour on its website."And yet this "group" didn't raise one thin dime for the YES on ONE campaign listed at the Maine Campaign contribution sight. so either they raised NO money OR NOM basically laundered the money for them???!!!???
June 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
henryelm, hopefully last week's Supreme Court decision will force NOM to finally comply with state law. They ordered it for Washington state. NOM tried the same deal there. Raised and spent money on the campaign and refused to disclose the donors. SCOTUS took a disliking to that secrecy saying it undermined the democratic process. I don't see how the Maine case is any different.
June 28, 2010 at 11:30 AM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
Finally and event that celebrated Marriage and family without the guise of HOMOSEXUALITY and the perverse notion of abnormal unions. Hats off 2 those whom put this 2gether...Good job. More events like this should B held 2 express 2 those intent to destroy REAL marriage that straight pride and normal family cannot B corupted.
June 28, 2010 at 11:31 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
So ARE they REALLY PRO traditional marriage or are they simply ANTI gay marriage?? What ARE they DOING TO SUPPORT traditional marriage( and it's assault by divorce) and families( and its assault by domestic violence, abuse,alcoholism, adultery, drug abuse, poverty, unemployment) What ARE they doing to make traditional marriage stronger and a CHOICE people WANT to make??
June 28, 2010 at 11:32 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
'9th Circuit Appealet Court' Now that's just plain embarassing. Of course I meant 'Appellate'
June 28, 2010 at 11:33 AM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
Anti Gay, pro Marriage, Eiher is how it should B
June 28, 2010 at 11:35 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
So ARE they REALLY PRO traditional marriage or are they simply ANTI gay marriage?? What ARE they DOING TO SUPPORT traditional marriage( and it's assault by divorce) and families( and its assault by domestic violence, abuse,alcoholism, adultery, drug abuse, poverty, unemployment) What ARE they doing to make traditional marriage stronger and a CHOICE people WANT to make??
June 28, 2010 at 11:36 AM Report abuse
LMPer said...
As the debate on this issue continues-although equality should never be decided by debate or vote-I did learn one thing from the SSM vote. As a straight, middle-age, Maine-native woman, I refuse to sit silently in the future. Silence may lead some to misunderstand my position-Equality means equality for ALL. How about a large turn-out of SSM supporters at the 7/14 NOM rally? No confrontation, no angry words-just taking a stand for what is right.
June 28, 2010 at 11:37 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
It's very interesting to look at the PAC conttibutions and HOW many of these shadowy organizations are NOW serving as slush funds for laundering agents to eliminate and cleanse transparency from democracy. They simply make contributions from some so called "genereal fund". I think our Law on this needs to be tightened up a bit TO KEEP elections clean, transparent and above reproach and IN the hands of "the REAL people"( and out of and hands of OUT of state, BIG money influences).
June 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM Report abuse
tenacity said...
see you there on July 14th!!!!!!
June 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM Report abuse
Jon said...
maineJeff, has any problem emerged with same-sex marriages in VT and Mass. Has one heterosexual marriage broken up because same-sex marriages are allowed. The answer is no. No social problems no reason not to have same-sex marriages. I'm wrong. There is one major social problem. Gay couples pay more and get less of nearly everything as a story appearing now documents. No civil union law in any state so far provides equal rights. Can't unless the Federal Government recognizes civil unions which it can't under current law. Referendum questions like this one should only be held on November elections so that a tiny minority can't determine policy.
June 28, 2010 at 11:49 AM Report abuse
tenacity said...
we have same rights for all now ----- NO special rights for any group of like-minded individuals (NRA, KKK, MADD, homosexuals). See you on the 14th ! ! ! ! !
June 28, 2010 at 11:54 AM Report abuse
henryelm said...
Putting" protect marriage one man one woman"into MY search engine leads to "protect marriage' calf Prop 6 site. Clicking on "about us" tells me nothing "about them". No founder, no director, No board of director. That immediately says to me "no credibility", shadowy organization, actively HIDING WHO they are and who is leading the organization. These" we don't REALLY want you to know WHO we are" organization seem intended to subvert principles of democracy instead of fostering it. when did the so called "Freedom fighter of democracy" become a bunch of whimps?? Maybe it isn't freedom or the furtherance of it and democracy that they REALLY care about.
June 28, 2010 at 12:11 PM Report abuse
Page5Girl said...
"Finally and event that celebrated Marriage" apparently your wedding was no celebration.
June 28, 2010 at 12:12 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
the libs and demorats are panicking......they woke the majority up and now are whining about 'peaceful rallies' lol this folks are such a joke
June 28, 2010 at 12:17 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
these
June 28, 2010 at 12:18 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
the libs censors are at it again...can't help themselves...lol see you on the 14th ! ! !
June 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM Report abuse
hoffenpot said...
One of the organizers of this rally (Rev. Bob Emrich) has stated his support for an anti-gay policy in Uganda, which includes the death penalty for homosexual acts. I would gently remind people who are planning to attend this event that you will be judged by the company you keep. Anyone running for political office who attends this will also be judged. Some of the speakers at this rally are, how shall I put this, not ready for prime time.
June 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM Report abuse
henryelm said...
I think these organization are all about, not any particular issue of the day, BUT hiding WHO is funding these so called "campaigns".I think they are ALL about creating a semblace(and mockery) of grass roots without any foundation in reality. They are Astro turf lead and funded by a few to actively subvert democracy and the clean election LAWS (with the primary goal, of all these campaigns "to make obama fail") They think they have found a clever loophole(EEW I'll be harrassed)that will allow them to hide under a rock like the weasles they are.
June 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
All Marriage is a celebration, My 1st Marriage and then the renewel of vows to celebrate the beat down of HOMOSEXUAL marriage the day after it's defeat by the intellegent minds of the Maine voters. We celebrate the anniversery of our Union once a year and celebrate the defeat of Homosexual marriage in kind. On those days I proudly wear my , "Yes on 1 Marriage is not Gay." shirt.
June 28, 2010 at 12:29 PM Report abuse
ModerateOne said...
The right is truly committed to traditional marriage. Otherwise why would Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh get married so often?
June 28, 2010 at 12:39 PM Report abuse
henryelm said...
This isn't about marriage(or any other issue) OR "winning". It's about democracy and HOW we debate the issues of the day. It's about HOW we preserve a healthy democracy and how we PRESERVE and PROTECT those freedoms we claim to adore. All of the freedoms REQUIRES that those healthy "debates' that keep us free happen out in the open, NOT under a rock, with "secret" opponents. Why does the RIGHT FEAR open debate? Why do they fear revealing them seleves? Why aren't they willing to put their NAME and reputation on their principles??what are they hiding OR what are they ashamed of?? Maybe they are just Hiding they are astro turf and NO "ground swell".Just an empty but well financed PR campaign.I think this emperor may have No clothes!!!
June 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM Report abuse
Page5Girl said...
you celebrate your union once a year. and the rest of the time? wow, now that's what i don't call love.
June 28, 2010 at 12:53 PM Report abuse
ElSkipper said...
Hey, heneryelm, read hoffenpot comment above yours. Sure sounds like threats from the gay side to me.
June 28, 2010 at 12:54 PM Report abuse
trisailer said...
If the want to "protect" traditional marrage than why not just stay home and "practice" traditional marrage. Why do they need to travel around the state and hold rallys for a "tradition" that already exist? Sounds like the death throes for "tradional" marrage and they know it. This has very little to do with marrage and a lot to do with some people wanting to control the private behavior of others.
June 28, 2010 at 1:06 PM Report abuse
trisailer said...
"ModerateOne said... The right is truly committed to traditional marriage. Otherwise why would Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh get married so often?" That was so good it had to be repeated.
June 28, 2010 at 1:11 PM Report abuse
Mahogany said...
It won't matter. The supreme court will be deciding this very soon, and all indicators are pointing to legalizing SSM. The NOM and their followers will wither up and die like they should. It will be so fun to watch.
June 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
Hate??, It's not hate it's comon sense. Be it God or evolution HOMOSEXUALITY in itself is a self serving fetish.No more different than beastality pedophilia, S&M crossdressing etc. No natural fruitition can come from HOMOSEXUALITY men and women were not created hermaphrodites or asexual. There are those whom have made a choice not to have children but outside of that( not discounting medical reasons) HOMOSEXUALITY ia and asquewed lifestyle that sets a bad precident and example 4 children. These adults must live in confusion and denial let them do it away from the young.
June 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM Report abuse
Mahogany said...
"can't wait for November when some of the deceived can redeem their mistake at the voting booth".........The American people have spoken. They flushed that republican turd and hired a smart black man for president. Get over it, or move to Canada already!.....you can apply that statement to SSM though. Some of those people duped into voting yes are changing their minds now. Not that it matters cause it will be legalized by the supreme court soon enough. hahahahaha
June 28, 2010 at 1:35 PM Report abuse
Page5Girl said...
how do you explain homosexual relationships in other species.
June 28, 2010 at 1:39 PM Report abuse
ElSkipper said...
Best comment of the day is from "YXNkNTY1NjZzZA%3D%3D said..." Because it is more about forcing social acceptance as it is about legal rights. The cries about legal rights are a diversion. The fact that AR5 and others would reject equal rights under a different name shows that they could care less about legal rights. They want to redefine the most basic building block of society to force social acceptance. But they attack any rejection of this redefinition with arguments about legal rights. There are two distinctly different issues here. One is legal rights and the other is social acceptance. Not that any liberal-progressives would ever admit to it. That would require honesty and integrity, things that liberal-progressives are not known for.
June 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM Report abuse
henryelm said...
"Sure sounds like threats from the gay side to me." What "threat" are you talking about?? This one?? "I would gently remind people who are planning to attend this event that you will be judged by the company you keep." That is a "threat"????If you consider THAT a threat I'd say your "convictions" aren't very strong at all. Geeze you guys never would have "made it" in the 60's !!
June 28, 2010 at 1:48 PM Report abuse
Chew said...
What is this need of some people to impose their perspective on others? Seems to me that most people who get married do so with the opposite sex and I really don't see that changing antime soon regardless of whether or not gay marriage happens. However this seeming obsession to impose "one man one woman" when about 50 percent of men and women find their way to divorce court comes out to "one man two women" or "one woman two men" or more... How about re-inforcing to everybody the importance of "making the right choice" and staying together by working things out? Perhaps this march against equality should reconsider the true value, or lack thereof, their efforts.
June 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM Report abuse
AR5 said...
Nobody cares that some of you don't approve of these families or that you don't find it socially acceptable for them to use the word "marriage". What we care about is the fact that you are intruding into their lives and denying them equality because of your opinion and your fear that your own marriages somehow need protecting. If your marriage is that fragile, please, please focus on your own family instead of trying to deny other spouses and children.
June 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM Report abuse
henryelm said...
Elskipper were you ever denied being at the hospital bed of your dying loved one,or denied a voice in their care, because you weren't "legally" married??
June 28, 2010 at 1:57 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
Hey henry that law goes 4 straight and HOMOSEXUAL. If it's even a law.
June 28, 2010 at 2:03 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
As much as they try, hate and fear mongering will not win in the end.
June 28, 2010 at 2:10 PM Report abuse
hoffenpot said...
Hey, ElSkipper, you considered what I said to be a threat? Puh-leeze. Here's a clue for you: don't run for political office. You'll get eaten alive (metaphorically speaking). What I said about Bob Emrich is the truth. You have a computer, do some research.
June 28, 2010 at 2:12 PM Report abuse
ZGxrc2FlMjM0Mw%3D%3D said...
"Elskipper were you ever denied being at the hospital bed of your dying loved one,or denied a voice in their care, because you weren't "legally" married??" ____________________________________________________________ Many who support traditional marriage see homosexuals being denied those rights as a travesty. We agree that committed homosexual couples should have those rights. However we also see marriage as a husband and wife. We see that as a self evident truth (that means is needs no explanation). We support civil unions. We support a federal standard for civil unions so such rights will be accepted in all states. But we do not support the redefining of marriage as the method of extending those rights. We are willing to extend every right associated with marriage except the use of the word. If that isn't enough then that says more about you than it does about us.
June 28, 2010 at 2:15 PM Report abuse
Page5Girl said...
please send my condolences to the wife.
June 28, 2010 at 2:15 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
I will B @ the event wearing my "YES ON 1 SHIRT MARRIaGE IS NOT GAY."
June 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
HOMOSEXUAL marriage and normal have no right 2 B in the same sentance.
June 28, 2010 at 2:27 PM Report abuse
Page5Girl said...
"I see page5 also cannot understand normal thinking." I am not your typical Mainer, who likes to tell others how to live their lives, or run their business. I have never been into the Nanny scene such as yourself.
June 28, 2010 at 2:32 PM Report abuse
AR5 said...
"However we also see marriage as a husband and wife. We see that as a self evident truth (that means is needs no explanation)" ==========================Again, it's great that you see it that way, and that you don't need to base it on anything that has to do with law, etc. But, you have no right to try and make the rest of us live our lives the way you live yours.
June 28, 2010 at 2:34 PM Report abuse
AR5 said...
"We are willing to extend every right associated with marriage except the use of the word. If that isn't enough then that says more about you than it does about us." ================================= Gee, how very generous of you. I'm sure that if a group decided your family should have certain things, and not have certain things, you would be fine with it, cause at least they are willing to "give you" something. "If that isn't enough" Please. Luckily, Sam is right, the younger generation will fix the equality issues we have now, and look back and laugh at how mean you all are.
June 28, 2010 at 2:38 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
EEEYA AR5, count on the younger generation..............LOL
June 28, 2010 at 2:41 PM Report abuse
ZGxrc2FlMjM0Mw%3D%3D said...
Your absolute rejection of any kind of compromise says more about you than anyone else. There is a term for a child who gets everything that they want. I believe it is "spoiled brat". Your absolute refusal to compromise says more about you than anyone else, with the possible exception of your parents.
June 28, 2010 at 2:44 PM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
NOM's rally in July is a part of the death throes of a campaign that is close to being over. As the Prop 8 trial makes its way through the next two courts, I think you will see conservative behavior escalate. However it will come to naught. Legitimization of SSM and the LGBT community as a group is well on its way. In 10 years, young folks will read about it all in history books and laugh at the big to-do about nothing. Same as with civil rights for blacks. No difference. Civil rights win out in the long run.
June 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
considering the max amount of homosexuals in the state of Maine is 6600 and they represent .005 percent of the 1.3 million people. They chose this lifestyle and are set on forcing their opinions on society. How about taking a clue from Uganda and regulate their behavior or the Islamic view and apply sharia law. Or leave our laws alone and get the economy fixed since obamanation has no idea what to do!
June 28, 2010 at 2:58 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
jester said "Same as with civil rights for blacks. No difference" .................................................It is totally different - one is a physical race and one is a choice. Keep hoping for the SCOTUS to solve it.....lol....just like the handgun issue.......roflmao
June 28, 2010 at 3:01 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
Great. The Bigot Parade Across America starts here in Maine. Well at least it's in Augusta where hardy anyone lives. SSM will be law soon - just a few more bigots to turn 90 and drop dead.
June 28, 2010 at 3:02 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
The history books will account how straight pride kept HOMOSEXUALS from corrupting Marriage in Maine.
June 28, 2010 at 3:08 PM Report abuse
brightOne said...
"straight pride" - is that like white pride? Or maybe straight supremacy?
June 28, 2010 at 3:13 PM Report abuse
Mahogany said...
"6600 and they represent .005 percent of the 1.3 million people"....hilarious. Where in the world did you come up with those numbers? The 1 in 10 rule of thumb was determined at a time when people were not "out", so likely a much higher actual number. So even using the 1 in 10 rule, that would be more like 130,000. In reality it's likely more around 250,000.
June 28, 2010 at 3:19 PM Report abuse
upnorth said...
Wow! This Emrich dood is off in lalaland. Anyone miss Michael Heath yet?! Much ado about nothing, once again.
June 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM Report abuse
upnorth said...
What's next? The Peterman Reality Tour?
June 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
woody, deceiving people is your mo........not mine......the numbers come from the University of California (LA)under a study sponsored by the homosexual alliance. AND that number includes lesbians, homosexual males bisexuals, transsexuals....lol you can't possible think 1 in 10 that's just ignorant.....of course that what homosexual want people to believe but it's not true, just like most everything homosexual say......6600 was being generous since the majority of the homosexual population in the United States (2.8%)are concentrated in major cities like NY, LA, & SF.......
June 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
just the math woody.....250,000 out of 1.3 million - 20% ---more lies and deceit from homosexual liberals
June 28, 2010 at 3:40 PM Report abuse
Chew said...
I am appalled there is any legislation concerning peoples gender in regards to marriage. It is not my business, or anyone elses business, what plumbing is in someone's "pants". What should matter is that any two adults, regardless of the sexual preferences, should have equal status in regards to whatever relationship they choose. Maine, like all other states, has a legal requirement for marriage and divorce called a marriage license, and in Maine the ceremony must be witnessed by two people in addition to the qualified officiant. Everybody is on the same playing field in regards to legality of marriage in Maine, except for people who are gay... Where is the fairness in that?
June 28, 2010 at 3:57 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
Chew on this.......what about pediphiles and children...parents and their children.......bothers.....sisters.......etc, etc, etc, homosexuality is a choice not 'born with'...NO special rights for anyone
June 28, 2010 at 4:05 PM Report abuse
Sam said...
tenacity declares "NO special rights for anyone" - except of course he/she supports the most extreme example of special rights to violate Maine election laws without any consequences for NOM. Hypocrisy abounds
June 28, 2010 at 5:07 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
well Sam at least they one and if they really broke laws why R they not B-ing indited, "WHY?" B-cause nobody cares but the ones whom lost. YAHOOOOOOOOO
June 28, 2010 at 5:25 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
no sammy as usual twisting the truth which libtards can't help but do......if NOM is found guilty of anything then so be it....I don't believe in your concept of GUILTY until proven beyond a reason doubt proven innocent. So you think woody is having a problem with there only being 6600 homosexuals in Maine???? He was so sure of the 250,0000 others like him.....hahahahhah...lol 1 in 10 what a joke
June 28, 2010 at 5:35 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
doing the math with 1.3 million it works out to 1 in 200...that is more likely than 1 in 10 sorry woody, you and your friends are just another blip on the radar screen nothing to take seriously
June 28, 2010 at 5:39 PM Report abuse
mdenis46 said...
Religious views should NOT become law. Having said that, maybe the insistence that same-sex unions be called "marriage" killed the idea. I'm certain that many people in Maine would support full equality for gay couples, but when it had to be called "marriage" that was going too far too fast.
June 28, 2010 at 6:29 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
ar stop the spin...you already have TOTAL equality. What you want is Special Rights for a group of like-minded individuals ..........................at least be honest ...........
June 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM Report abuse
Sam said...
tenacity - Only about 1.5% of Americans self identified as gay in a written survey. That is the only reference close to what you are quoting that I can find. That number would seem to relate to the number of publicly declared or "out" gays. I do not believe that any gay manor woman who is actively hiding their sexual orientation would tun around and write down that they are gay on a survey.
June 28, 2010 at 9:11 PM Report abuse
tls77 said...
Traditional marriage is the legal contract between individuals that creates kinship. It has nothing to do with gender. It's the homophobes who have to keep bringing up the gay thing... no wonder they all turn out to be closet cases.
June 28, 2010 at 9:35 PM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
Too any and all Pro marriage, you are not homophobes. ho·mo·pho·bi·a [hmə fṓbee ə] n irrational hatred of homosexuality: an irrational hatred, disapproval, or fear of homosexuality, gay and lesbian people, or their culture. Homosexuality is in itself and irrational choice no fruition can come from such a union. humankind was not created to engage physicically in same sex behavior no more then we were created 2 engage in sex with animals. Personally those I know do not hate HOMOSEXUALS fear them or their lifestyle, If U R the same U R in no way a HOMOPHOBE,that is nothing but a buzz word used 2 confuse those who can B confused and put down whom believe in straight pride and the non corruption of sanctified Marriage and family.
June 28, 2010 at 11:27 PM Report abuse
GetSerious said...
Isn't it wonderful that NOM, an organization based in New Jersey, can come to Maine pretending to be just another summer vacationer, then corrupt our referendum process with out-of-state funds and bias, blatantly disregard our campaign finance laws, bog down our court system with frivolous litigation and spread their bigoted views and their ways of hate from the Garden State. As if THEY live here. THEY DON'T! WTF folks, we don't WANT these visitors in OUR State. Say NO to bad people from New Jersey corrupting our way of life. Say NO to NOM.
June 29, 2010 at 8:55 AM Report abuse
Bole said...
Just another hate group fighting for inequality.
June 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM Report abuse
DeathCultt said...
It may have been out of state funds that assisted the defeated corrupt HOMOSEXUAL agenda. The maine voters R who put back in the dirt were it belongs.
June 29, 2010 at 10:11 AM Report abuse
tenacity said...
sammy University of Southern California Population Survey, but I like your number better 1.5 verse 2.8 means there are even fewer of these perverted people!
June 29, 2010 at 11:02 AM Report abuse
tenacity said...
typical homosexual ranting about NOM, of course they don't mention that the vast majority of the funding and staffing on prop1 on their side was out of state and the people brought into the state as workers were from out of state. They spent almost twice as much and came up very short ...lol...losers
June 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM Report abuse
tenacity said...
mev.......facts are facts even if you don't like it .....lol per·vert (pr-vûrt) tr.v. per·vert·ed, per·vert·ing, per·verts 1. To cause to turn away from what is right, proper, or good; corrupt. 2. To bring to a bad or worse condition; debase. 3. To put to a wrong or improper use; misuse. See Synonyms at corrupt. 4. To interpret incorrectly; misconstrue or distort: an analysis that perverts the meaning of the poem. n. (pûrvûrt) One who practices sexual perversion. yep all those apply to homosexuals especially # 3 lol
June 29, 2010 at 11:12 AM Report abuse
stinkyspot said...
Moderate, I am a center (Right leaning) voter and I am supportive of gay marriage. Why should I care who marries who? I am conservative on two fronts, spending and the 2nd amendment (And I join the 2nd amendment fools just because I like my rights, not because I agree with their arguments....) so you cannot simply determine what someone thinks based soley on how they vote in November. I am very liberal when it comes to social issues.
June 29, 2010 at 11:18 AM Report abuse
Mahogany said...
teeny, As usual, you have issues with basic math. So here is a link with some statistics you should find interesting. The 1 in 10 rule comes from a study in 1948. Just imagine how many more people are willing to admit to being gay now compared to then. Common sense tells us the number is likely higher. But, you go ahead and believe what you want. In the end, you don't matter. If you want to talk about perverts, take a look at the molestation stats. 95-97% of pedophiles are hetero men.......anyway, it won't matter soon. SSM will be legal in all 50 states. It's coming like it or not. The train has left the station, and you're not on it.
June 29, 2010 at 12:03 PM Report abuse
Mahogany said...
Link... http://www.socal-glide.org/statistics.html
June 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
woody......hahahahah...1948...hahahahhahha............sorry little guy I'll bet I see 50 people today and NONE of them will be homosexual........(not 5)......the 6600 total for the state is a number from a study by the University of Southern California financed by the homosexual alliance to determine the population of homosexuals, bisexuals and transvestite in the United States. 2.8% is probably high since the funding was biased but even sammy's finding of 1.5% is a long way from 1 in 10. 1 in 200 is a reasonable estimate, you need to get out in the real population away from your 'friends' and see. It's like someone saying SF is a normal US city.........hahahahahhaha
June 29, 2010 at 12:14 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
woody....do the math.....hahahahh......this is the link you provided.....hahahhaha........." 9% of men between 18-59 in LA, NYC, Chicago and San Francisco self-identified as gay or bisexual." (Random study in The Social Organization of Sexuality, 1994)" ---------------------------------- that's not even 1 in 10 in SF NY LA and Chicado......hahahahha ------------------------------- Other estimates: 10% of population (Kinsey, 1948); 2.8% of men, 1.4% of women. let's see 2.8 plus 1.4 equals 4.2% .....hahahahh..... must be 5.8% of the population in 1948 that are eunuchs....hahahahhah........................................................woody ....notice before the Kinsey , 1948 'Other Estimate' lol
June 29, 2010 at 12:24 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
the censors are back --- must be too much truth for the rainbow reporter to be able to handle
June 29, 2010 at 1:24 PM Report abuse
Ayuh23 said...
Mr Emrich and his friends are spending way too much time thinking about other people's sex lives. Better to spend time perfecting their own. There's lots of ways to protect and defend traditional marriage by supporting already married heterosexuals. It's not the homosexuals who are threatening traditional marriage, it's divorce.
June 29, 2010 at 1:37 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
yep, I was right just came back from Sam's and could only identify 1 possible bisexual whom I know and hundreds of couples and singles. No total flamers or even 'smartly dress' and manicured stereotypes...no butch's at all.........just hundreds of everyday people who are just trying to get by with this economy. Of course this is not a rainbow business so that probably explains why woody and his friends don't patronize it. They don't associate with the average person...... lol
June 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM Report abuse
tenacity said...
Biddy said... ................"where unqualified candidates get elected because they spark the emotions of the uninformed. Too bad. They win elections and then they have to govern. They then flop and people see them for the inept louts they are. They rarely last beyond one term"............................................lol well said... so obamanation is gone according to Biddy.....roflmao..
June 29, 2010 at 7:25 PM Report abuse